Dr. Catherine Conlon:

Rigour is at the heart of methodology. We had an extensive discussion in Deputy Tóibín's absence with Senator Kyne about this and what the various methodologies and reasons were as to how we could conduct research that would be much more inclusive of all pathways and outcomes to research. There is a model from the early 1990s in a study the Department of Health commissioned, called Women and Crisis Pregnancy, that undertook research with people seeking abortion, people who opted for adoption, and people who continued to parent. I would be more than pleased to be involved in a research study that was that inclusive and that would potentially allow for a sample of methodology that would include the people about whom the Deputy is speaking. However, what we did point out at that point is if we seek to sit down with people, we have to use a scientific sampling methodology. We cannot-----