Darren O'Rourke (Meath East, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

A number of times Dr. Kelleher and Dr. Dobbs mentioned being careful in drafting the proposed amendment. The recommendations from the citizens' assembly specifically point to human rights to a healthy environment and the substantive and procedural rights in that regard, and the rights of nature and again the procedural and substantial rates in that regard. Are Dr. Kelleher and Dr. Dobbs suggesting having two separate questions? How might we get to the drafting of a text? The citizens' assembly had exposure to really detailed information here. To the general population listening, the idea of a river taking a case or a flock of birds taking a case is a very significant jump which in my opinion could scupper a referendum if not dealt with in the right way. I ask Dr. Kelleher and Dr. Dobbs to respond to those points on getting us to a starting point.

Dr. Ryall mentioned specialist environmental courts and offered to go into some more detail on important considerations in that regard. I am conscious that we are some way down the road on that. I ask her to give her perspective on that either now or in writing later.