Mr. Kevin Bakhurst:

I could bring in Ms Mullooly here. It is important to say one of the first questions I asked about this whole issue and transaction was whether we thought it was legally fraud or not. The advice I got quite firmly was that it was not. The second thing is it is really important to say in this regard that RTÉ bears a significant amount of responsibility for this and how it was designed and so on, so whether we can pursue someone externally for it when in the end they had a legal contract to give it to them, putting aside the inaccuracy of the invoices-----