Professor Mary Murphy:

Yes, many of the conditions are really not enabling people to live thriving lives. What we are trying to get at here is the design of a payment that is rewarding people who are trying to contribute to society and live a thriving life. We are trying to encourage people to be reciprocal actors in life and be part of society. We are not trying to give money for nothing or to everybody, but trying to put in place some narrowing of the criteria so it is not a universal basic income and it is not for everybody. In this example we are giving, it is very clear the payment is only for those who are living with family members or people who are entitled on the grounds of medical eligibility and that the person can prove he or she is in a caring position for them.