Dr. John Hillery:

It is a leadership issue. We know there are problems recruiting in the health service. We cannot deny that but we know that even within those problems, there are some solutions that need to be shared.

On the availability of people, there are probably issues around needing to train more people. That is more long term. More immediately, the hope for me in the report was that it was shown that teams were functioning reasonably well despite not having the full complement of staff and also that teams that were better governed had less trouble attracting staff. The other thing we always have to talk about in health, of course, is retention. It is not alone about getting people in but also keeping them. That was a positive as well. I know Professor Lucey has some thoughts on this.