Mr. Michael Gaffey:

Exactly. We believe 24% is a start but we need to do better. We are now talking about training our people so that they understand how to make programmes more disability-inclusive and know how to design them more effectively. That includes our people in headquarters and in our missions who are implementing programmes. We also need to work with our partners in civil society whom we fund to ensure we are all working on the same basis, so that when we talk about disability inclusion, we actually have a clear base for doing it. That work is under way at the moment. At a certain point, it could be good to come back to the committee to show exactly how we are doing that. We were talking today about how to roll it out further. We can do that.

However, as the Senator also noted, working in conflict hugely accentuates the difficulties. We are used to implementing development programmes traditionally in poor and difficult areas, but if conflict, hunger and famine are added into the mix, it becomes enormously difficult. That is, however, a challenge we have to face. That is why the international community has been trying to develop in recent years more of a nexus approach, working across developmental, humanitarian and political security action at the same time. It is easy to put down on a piece of paper but much harder to do in practice, but we have to because conflict is actually now the main driver of hunger in the world.

To be perfectly honest, in a very extreme setting, if there are disabled children, the reality is they may be the first to die in a famine, number one because they are weak and number two because maybe they are the ones who receive least attention. We have to integrate much better. That is what we are doing now, which is our immediate humanitarian work without giving up on our development work. We are exploring with the United Nations a partnership to roll out training-----