Brendan Griffin (Kerry, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

That is the point I am getting to. I do not think the public are prepared to move forward until they are confident that their money will be overseen correctly. That is the problem. That is what people are saying to me in my constituency and to Senator Ahearn in his constituency. The public have seen enough of these hearings. They feel there needs to be a radical change in personnel, particularly at a board level, because the board was asleep on the job. Let us call a spade a spade.