David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

It is important for us to appreciate the scale of the overall failures that families and children feel in relation to a litany of issues. We are discussing here today the issues of the use of springs and non-medical grade devices and all of the issues that arise in relation to the post-surgical complications and infections but we must bear in mind as well that there have been years of broken promises, Ombudsman's reports and children waiting for a long time. That is why there is a catastrophic breach in trust.

I will put one question to Ms Hardiman, because we had a lengthy discussion in the Dáil on this. Does Ms Hardiman accept the view of the families of children and advocate groups that Children's Health Ireland, CHI, should have no hand, act or part in the crafting of terms of reference for the external review and that it should be as many steps removed from the CHI and the HSE as possible?