Martin Conway (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

That is grand and I totally accept Dr. Goldman’s bona fides on that but I am trying to find out whether there have been other instances. I cannot take the witnesses’ word that there have not been, simply because this has happened in spite of all their cross-references, checks and balance and so on. They cannot definitively tell me there are not other devices that were not of medical grade used on children.