Mr. Hugh Creegan:

If we go back to the bigger picture, getting permeability into those places is something we should pursue even harder than we are doing at the moment. It is a real problem for us to see a bus service outside an estate and nobody at the bus stop and that even though people could probably throw a sandwich from their house to the bus stop, they cannot get to it. A version of that is probably a useful tool in trying to persuade people, but we are still dealing with the very localised issue that wherever a hole in the wall is to go in, there is tremendous opposition from the people nearby. It is the usual complaint we all suffer from.