Mr. Kevin Bakhurst:

Some presenters are on staff, but there is a number of factors when we review contracts. These include how the presenter's programme has been performing with the audience and what the audience numbers are like, as well as the commercial impacts around the programme and the quality of what a presenter brings to the audience is also involved. It is not possible to judge everything on the numbers alone. Particularly in some areas, like in arts programming, there is also the question of the level of specialised knowledge and expertise, etc. These are all factors we try to weigh up in a proper discussion about what value presenters bring to the audience. This is the prism I see this through.