Mr. Kevin Bakhurst:

It is very important that we need to separate these two things. We have the immediate running of the organisation for this year and next year. The strategy will be costed. A lot of what is going to be in the strategy are not things we can achieve by the beginning of 2024 or even by the middle of 2024. If we are looking at selling part or all of Donnybrook, if we are looking at other places around the country we want to move to and invest in, if we are looking at some form of targeted reshaping of the organisation, these are things that take not weeks or months but years to achieve. A lot of it has a price tag and we will set that out. If we are going to go for a redundancy programme comprising voluntary redundancies, which is the only programme I really would want to do, it has a price tag and it is not cheap to do. Frankly, we cannot afford to do it now. If I wanted to make voluntary redundancies now we cannot afford them.