Tim Lombard (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

The farming community has introduced changes in the past three or four years, involving more than 30 different measures. The EPA representatives acknowledged today that when they model catchments, derogation farmers are not part of the modelling. In other words, the EPA does not acknowledge the derogation farmers are there. We have a scenario now whereby when we have a catchment, we take into consideration a loading in that catchment. Bovine matter is a part of that loading. However, the EPA has not worked out how many of them are derogation farms. What is Mr. Herlihy's view of that type of modelling whereby the good farming practices that are happening because of derogation are not taken into consideration? That question might be more appropriate for Dr. O'Connell.