Tim Lombard (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Regarding cattle numbers in that modelling, we can define which is the derogation farm and the farm practices it has modified to adhere to the derogation. We are all aware of them – different fertiliser spreading methods, soiled water storage, etc.

We are all aware of different fertilisers spreading soiled water all the way through. When it comes to the modelling and looking at cow numbers, am I right in saying that the EPA is considering farmers who are both in and out of derogation?