Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

No. On the two €75,000 invoices, Mr. Lynch said that RTÉ should never have paid those out. The taxpayer should never have been on the hook. I agree with that but the taxpayer was on the hook for it. The crux of this matter for me is that somebody, somewhere had a conversation. They said, "Flip it, lads, we have to pay out these invoices. Where will we get this money from?". There was a conversation that the witnesses have referenced, that there is a junior person within the organisation whose name they do not want to divulge, right. I do not for a minute believe that junior person made the decision that Astus was the place the money was going to derive from. Somebody, somewhere within the organisation said, "We have to find €150,000. We have to keep it on the QT." I very much agree with what Ms Ní Raghallaigh said that this was something designed to deceive. Someone, somewhere said, "Where can we get a quiet €150,000?", and somebody else said, "Do you know where? Down the back of the couch, barter fund." Who had that conversation because for me, that is the absolute crux of the matter? Who was involved in that discussion?