Mr. Kevin Bakhurst:

I might bring in Mr. Mullen in a minute because he is the expert on this. The two issues are that we need the barter account to trade airtime and that is in the commercial negotiation.

What we pay is probably broadly in line with industry norms. Mr. Mullen might be able to say a bit more about that. The other payments that came out of the barter account attracted similar charges. That is a reason not to pay them out of the barter account. If Mr. Mullen wants to talk about what we pay them-----