Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent) | Oireachtas source

Okay. I will move to Mr. Tubridy's statement. He has outlined seven untruths. To be fair, he has come here to give his side of the story. As Deputies, we need to hear both sides and find the truth in between. Mr. Tubridy has outlined seven untruths in his statement. My question is perhaps for Mr. Kelly too. Is it the view of the two gentlemen that those untruths were intended to deceive not just the public, but also the Committee of Public Accounts, into thinking they were responsible for everything that has happened here?