Mr. Noel Kelly:

Yes. Originally the independent contractor status came from RTÉ when Gay Byrne was there and subsequently it was set up as a vehicle because of the commercial revenue they brought in. Again, on the commercial revenue versus the licence fee, the licence fee is 55% and commercial revenue, 45%. In 2001, licence fee revenue was €190 million and commercial revenue was €148 million, so there is only a 5% difference in it. As a result, that muddies the market for all the other local radio stations, national radio stations and TV stations.