Ms Geraldine O'Leary:

From a commercial perspective, the most intense period of interaction with Noel Kelly would have been when the director general was asking me to find a solution for the payments, which led to the barter account. Normally, I would have very occasional contact with Noel Kelly. I might meet him in RTÉ. He also has a business, CMS Marketing, which represents clients, including Bank of Ireland and Vodafone. Every now and again, if there was an issue with something, he might call me or An Post, but rarely.