Mr. Noel Regan:

I thank Deputy Bruton. Historically, Ervia was set up with Irish Water and GNI on the basis, as I understand it, that savings would accrue from a network company doing water and gas. It would have been before our time. It was decided not to take that approach. The previous Government decided to split Ervia and GNI, and to put them very much focused on their individual roles. This is an implementation of that decision.

On public bodies and their role in climate delivery, that is a very live question. I will not say I have a definitive answer on that yet. I think we are a year into the climate Act, after which there is a legal requirement on them to take the carbon budgets and ceilings into account. There are learnings there now. I think the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications, Deputy Eamon Ryan, has written to them saying they must adhere to this. We are learning on that, and more needs to be done on how we align them. We see-----