Alan Dillon (Mayo, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

We accept the witnesses' appearance here before us today and appreciate their co-operation. Back in September 2020, RTÉ campaigned on "Truth Matters". I have to assume today that all of the witnesses in front of us at the Committee of Public Accounts are here to tell the truth. However, I still cannot find where the truth is or how we can determine the real sequence of events that occurred. Certainly, that reminds me of a famous line from Theodore Roosevelt in 1912, who said that looking for the truth is like nailing jelly to the wall.

After yesterday's committee meeting and what we have heard again today - we have been in public session for nearly two hours - many facts are still unknown. We want even further detail with regard to the sequence of events. I will direct this question to the chief financial officer, CFO, Mr. Collins. With regard to RTÉ's payment to Mr. Noel Kelly for services provided during Covid-19, these were really payments for Ryan Tubridy and Renault. Is that correct, yes or no?