John Brady (Wicklow, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

The crux of the matter is who set out to deceive and whether it was an individual, as some would like to portray it, or whether it was a number of people who came together to deceive. I am not sure if we will get to the bottom of that at this meeting but it is the crux of the question.

Returning to a point that was raised when the director of finance was asked when he was first approached by Deloitte, am I right in saying it was 7 March? At that stage Deloitte expressed concern about two of the invoices, each for €75,000. At that point, the finance director approached Dee Forbes and set out a narrative in which Dee Forbes stated that these consultancy invoices were for NK Management and related to how RTÉ restructured itself during Covid. Am I right in saying that?