Mr. Justice Alan Mahon:

-----promotion, and it is all about promotion. They lose out because their male colleagues and their non-pregnant female colleagues are moving on and are able to do those courses. A lot of those courses are quite physical. I know that the Defence Forces and the Department are taking steps to try to facilitate to a greater extent female members who are on maternity leave or pregnant. Of course, at the end of the day, certain levels of training are required, so it is not the easiest thing to do, but I think they can do more and are attempting to do more.