Mr. Robert Shortt:

I was shocked. It took me a while even to try to understand that. Having said that, it obviously exists in the commercial world, and I fully accept that, but it was not widely known. It is very important to state, with regard to people working in news and current affairs and other parts of the organisation, there is a very clear distinction between the activities in the commercial section and what we do. We would not have known about a barter account. It would not have been appropriate for us to know about a barter account and what went on in a barter account.