John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I am cutting across the Minister, but we all accept that and it was a big loss. Apart from the money involved, the commitments given and the report, who caused that loss? This is what I think is the big question here. If this process had all been handled differently and correctly, we might not be here at all discussing Tony Holohan and this position and secondment. I suggest to the Minister that if the Department had been more transparent in respect of what it was trying to achieve, then it might have got political and public support to do what was being proposed, bearing in mind all the conversations regarding future dangers the Minister spoke of.