Mr. Denis Duggan:

Off the top of my head, I cannot give the Senator a percentage figure. Historically, the organisation, for budgetary reasons more than anything else, has probably recruited quite a lot of graduates in their first job and, as a result, there is an inherent built-in high attrition because people at graduate level have not stayed in those roles. We have seen considerable turnover in those kind of first-career graduate-type roles.