Mr. Denis Duggan:

It probably meets around three or four times a year. Personally, I think it does meet enough. We have a meeting coming up in a couple of weeks' time. The group creates a platform where, from our point of view in HSI, we can engage with somebody from the thoroughbred world and continue that engagement offline on various issues. That has been very effective for some of the challenges that we have faced collectively, particularly around the movement of horses, for example.