Mr. Tom Marren:

It is a very good question because there are limited resources, including our capital. SEAI will say that the bang for our investment in terms of grants etc. is probably a factor of between five and eight. Industrial heat really comes on top of everything else - deep retrofits, domestic heat pumps, across the board - because it does not need the same level of support. I have seen ratios showing that support of €1 billion in this area would deliver twice as much carbon as €8 billion in support in the domestic area. As I said, that was hearsay but I think it is a good question to put back to SEAI. Our European partners are seeing that industrial heat is an area to tackle now. It requires the lowest support mechanisms and it will deliver within the 20230 framework. Bringing the level of urgency we need in order to reduce our footprint is the only game in town. I would be very interested to hear the SEAI's approach on that as well.