Ms Marie O'Shea:

It simply is not just that. I have not suggested that we reduce it to one clinician or one obstetrician. What I have said on section 11 cases is that it is recognised by the statute that it is a two-person process to make the decision. When people are being assessed as to whether there is a fatal foetal abnormality it does not require a physical examination of the pregnant woman. It requires looking at her medical records and testing results. If we look at the review process, where a decision would be denied in the statute, there is nothing that says people in the review process have to examine the pregnant woman physically. It is a two-person issue but it is not-----