Mr. Colm Hyland:

For us, that is one of the key areas. If we are going to go for a skills-based curriculum, which is what we are trying to do within the advanced manufacturing centre, then there are worthy bodies out there such as CompTIA. These are well known within the space of software and cyber. There are qualifications systems out there, but we are trying to get to curricula that will drive people towards practical skills.

We have spoken at length with the Estonians, who have been incredibly helpful. We have had conversations with the Israelis. Again, these have been very helpful. Within the programmes that we have available to the trainees who will come through, it is really about trying to provide them with the knowledge upon which they can build the skills. We are talking about cyber-ranges. We are talking about a training security operations centre, SOC, which will probably be the third of its kind in the country. This will be a place where people can go and apply the skills. All those plans are in process and will be available to trainees as soon as Mr. Kelly opens the door in September.