Mr. John O'Connell:

I suppose that is why we would argue for workplace agreements being underpinned by collective bargaining. If you are an employee, you have these concerns and you are approaching your employer, there is a real power imbalance. We need legislation around collective bargaining to underpin people's right to be represented and then to have these issues thrashed out on the basis of a workplace agreement.

As Dr. O'Sullivan has outlined, co-governance is a feature in other countries. That should not be a threat to employers. Co-governance around workplace policies will lead to better workplace policies but it should initially lead to a clear understanding from employees of what is being monitored and then that transparency piece in terms of people understanding the boundaries and the boundaries being respected.