Ruairi Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I welcome the Minister of State and all the witnesses. It is good to see Dr. Niazi again. In fairness, Deputy Tully has dealt with much of it. We have all had the conversations about silo operations. I think we would all agree that if people got the service they wanted for their autistic kid, whether in primary care or disability services, nobody would be looking to be in CAMHS. The problem is the CDNT or whoever else is saying people need to go to CAMHS for this service but CAMHS then says that as a person is autistic, he or she does not fall into this category. It is over and back and it is a complete farce. Of course, we cannot call anyone about this. It is not as if anyone will take my clinical diagnosis; rightfully so. We have a system that does not work at all, however.

Mr. O'Regan got into it. We are talking about the CDNTs and post occupancy. What did he say in respect of the worst case at times? Was it 19% or 43%?