Mr. Dennis Keeley:

Fighting fires with ladders and external firefighting is a tool in the armoury of firefighters. The principal mechanism for firefighters should be internally, and the building should be built to the standard that allows firefighters to enter. Our turntable ladders are used for firefighting, rescue and a number of other tasks and, frankly, I do not see that we will ever have a ladder tall enough to reach all risks. That is not the purpose of ladders. They are another tool. The 42 m is a jump from 30 m, which is the height of the existing stock of ladders we have in Dublin and across the country. In short, yes, for the city and road infrastructure, 42 m is probably at the extreme end of what we need. London has received 60 m ladders. They have a different purpose and represent a different way of firefighting. I think 42 m is sufficient for our needs.