Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 23 May 2023

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence

Engagement with the National Cyber Security Centre

Dr. Richard Browne:

That is a really good question. Yes, I am, is the simple answer. What the Chair has said goes to the heart of the hybrid question as much as anything else, and to the role of the NCSC in particular. I referred to the Hybrid centre's landscape of hybrid threats conceptual model. It outlines 13 different domains of hybrid activity. As the Chair correctly points out, those domains cut across all of government. At least part of what we do flows from aspects of various parts of An Garda Siochána, and the same thing applies to various part of the Defence Forces. What really matters is how we all interact and share with each other, and what is shared with the centre. The centre can issue policy advice, and guidance and support that covers all of these issues. That is what happens. We interact with An Garda Siochána and the Defence Forces in a variety of ways and at a variety of levels. I meet with colleagues from Garda Headquarters and the headquarters of the Defence Forces, including the Chief of Staff and the Garda Commissioner on a relatively regular basis. Colleagues at different levels within all of the organisations meet as well. We meet on criminal matters, national security issues, co-ordination issues and information sharing issues. We are happy with it. There are some structural things we want to change. That will be in the mid-term review, and they will become apparent at that point.

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