Mr. Brian Higgins:

We then move a person through a door. We are working to that principle and demonstrating that in our current programme.

The Deputy spoke to the fact that part of the retention issue is about the continuity of a relationship between the people with a disability or with autism and the people who look after them and provide services to them. That is critical. There is a dignity piece with that that we must retain as well as the person. The other problem with the risk of losing more people is an enormous amount of learning goes with the individual who goes so retention is critical. We are in a difficult position. Our colleagues in the voluntary sector would say that there is a movement where somebody might move within and from the voluntary sector to the statutory sector. We are trying to address that. There are a number of initiatives between the Departments and the professional bodies that are looking at that but fall outside of my own engagement in the HSE. What we are trying to look at tomorrow, and in the process of conversations we have had, is what can we do to respond on the ground today and how do we build that up. We are conscious that what we are doing will feed into a larger piece. We are very happy for that to be shared but we are certainly not a panacea.