Ms Jeanne McDonagh:

There are numerous ways. Ms Feeney might also pick up on this. There is no longevity in funding and there is no longevity or long thinking in terms of employment. It is seen as bitty and it is seen as internships where people are told, "You got your internship. That is you done. Away you go." They are not looking at retention and they are not looking at the fact that so many people with disabilities are very loyal employees who want to stay with the company that has given them the chance. As Ms Feeney pointed out earlier, they do not bring the supports with them. On the flip side, it is very hard to change jobs. Again, it is about othering and seeing them as people to be pitied or who are stigmatised or who are not quite at the races when it comes to jobs. That is absolute rubbish. They may have whatever sort of disability but they work twice as hard to overcome that. They overcome stigma and they overcome whatever barriers are in place and presented by their disability. They work twice as hard as any other employee. It does not make sense to me that people would think in such a short-term way. Also, how can one build experience and better oneself and one's skills, and all that goes with it within the work environment, if one is not given that opportunity?