Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

With the greatest of respect, the Deputy would have to have been there at the time and involved in the discussions. There was not clarity at the time as to how many would need to be ventilated, what ventilation would mean or what standard of ventilation would be appropriate, given the potential numbers, which we did not know. Again, there was no vaccination. There was a whole conversation, medically and ethically, about what ventilation would mean-----