Mr. Dominic Stevens:

I would mention Germany or any of the Scandinavian countries. What is fantastic about fire is it behaves the same way in Germany as it does in Ireland. It does not change. We have a maritime climate; people talk about damp in a different way. Fire is the same. I say that because my knowledge is of Germany but Germany is completely fit for purpose for the construction of safe, multistorey buildings out of CLT.