Dr. Joseph Duffy:

It is difficult. It is about trying to think about what sort of a society we want. Are we thinking about the individual? If sports, writing, drama or walking up a hill is his or her thing, that is brilliant. What is that person's thing, or what is his or her thing for now? How are we thinking about the broad education of young people and what messages are we giving? What do we prize? I talk to friends from abroad and they are always quite surprised by the hoo-ha in Ireland around the leaving certificate. Back in my day, all of the points were published in the papers. There is a sense that we almost take national pride in it but that really excludes and puts on an enormous amount of pressure on people. It is about trying to think of the broad messages we want to give and how we help families and communities understand that looking after people's mental health is a normal everyday thing and not something that can just be done in Jigsaw, CAMHS, Pieta House or somewhere else.

Families and communities understand that looking after people's mental health is a normal, everyday thing and not something that can just be done in Jigsaw, CAMHS, Pieta or somewhere else. How we manage some of those messages as a society is part of the bigger conversation.