Mr. Paul Hogan:

On the question regarding uplift, it is worth bearing in mind that the level of uplift from greenfield to development will be far higher than in a brownfield scenario, for example, where there may already be value because of industrial or office uses.

It is also a pro-compact growth measure in the sense that there will be less of an uplift or charge on the land where it is already close enough to services and things like that. It is important to bear that in mind as well. Indecon gave us a general indication of the value of the scheme as opposed to-----