Mr. Tony Dalton:

The key for the demonstration park is that it should become the next iteration of what we visited previously around Europe and in the UK, a live testing and training site that is linked directly to the NZEB, retrofit and other training provided on-site currently.

On the question on how to get the man and the van - the small guys who make up the construction sector - there are a couple of things. We have to demystify the digitalisation of construction and the construction sector. That is a real challenge. Construction Professionals Skillnet pointed out last year that its biggest challenge is that people working in the sector do not know what MMC is.

As part of breaking that cycle, one has to develop a single, coherent pathway which provides construction skills for new entrants, the existing workforce and construction professionals. It is microcredential-based, it is an exit-entry option, and it gives people a really accessible and visible pathway to developing their skills. We are starting to see a bounce, but the incentivisation scheme for the training places is going to be critical going forward, if we are to meet the targets.

Finally, on one other point that was mentioned about how one makes sure the training is appropriate, and how one makes sure it is the right training. That is about the entire sector with regard to education and training providers, including the higher education institutions, ourselves as ETBs, and all of the authorities. These include the likes of NSAI, which is here today, and the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland, SEAI. They are critical in developing training programmes, because we have to ensure the training programmes are appropriate for industry, but also carry a currency for learners so there is a value in it for them. That is really what we are seeing as probably our biggest challenge over the next 12 to 18 months. We are getting there. We have a tertiary approach to it, and we are getting there, but it is about ensuring these programmes are accessible. Contractors will not come off site to allow their workers to go training. The old adage of the 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. training centre is gone. It has to be mornings, evenings, weekends, online, blended and a real hybrid model of provision going forward.