Mr. Ciar?n O'Connor:

The Deputy hit on a number of elements. When you apply for planning in Baden-Württemberg, Germany, you have to state, as part of the planning application, what the building's embodied carbon will be and what its use of carbon will be over 50 years. That single move has transformed the applications. To get that to work, however, structures need to come in behind it. The analogy is, as I said, that we need to move from secondary school to third level. We have an industry but we need to develop it, give it a sequence of work to do that and then have the technical support. We would be happy to freely give all the information we have to whoever wishes to make use of it.