Dr. Tom Boland:

We arrive at a committee and we should probably spend as much time celebrating the achievements, such as the achievement of keeping the country going through Covid. In general, welfare systems everywhere are doing an extraordinary job and they are one of the greatest creations of the modern state. There is no question about that. Overall, as Dr. Fitzpatrick and I have discussed, the welfare system south of the Border is more generous in terms of money and also less harsh in the way it deals with people.