Rose Conway-Walsh (Mayo, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I wish to acknowledge that Senator Black suggested both witnesses attend. I am grateful to her for that, in addition to her contribution in the Seanad. Many of the social welfare payments are not drawn down in this jurisdiction because of asymmetrical information and the system being too complex. While on the face of it we may think we have all these payments, are they really getting to the people who are destitute and experiencing poverty and deprivation? One of the challenges in a new system will be that, obviously, drawdown will need to be looked at. I thank an Cathaoirleach Gníomhach for allowing me say that.