Paul Daly (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

No. No, I am sorry for interrupting Ms Kiely. I said that the circumstances of the plastic in question, where it was and how it got there, are not up for debate here. The point I am making is, irrespective of who bought it or collected it from farmer, or whether or not they got paid by the farmer to collect it, the bottom line is that it got to where it was and it was becoming an issue. However, it was still plastic on which the levy was paid to be collected and forwarded to the IFFPG. Yet, it was not asked to deal with that issue and the plastic. If that contractor did not exist, that plastic would have all been brought to a collection point, so it would have had to deal with it anyway. It just got there through a different process. However, it was still plastic on which the levy had been collected and paid. Yet, rather than asking it to recycle it under the levy it had been paid to do so, the Department involved a third party and paid taxpayers' money to that third party. In other words, there was a double payment for the recycling of that plastic. Does Ms Kiely not see the point I am making?