Mr. Mervyn Taylor:

That is the tricky bit because – and this is the problem of all public funding – it does not come from our department and is narrowly focused. We do not focus on outcomes. We funded a major piece of research some years ago with the late Trutz Haase and Dr. Kieran McKeown and we put forward a completely new view of how supports and services for older people could be looked at through social enterprise and I still believe in that approach. We actually need to use money in a more enterprising way. Businesses will benefit, older people will benefit and in the process, we will develop a new way of providing public services.