Ms Geraldine O'Sullivan:

This has been a very interesting start to the discussion because it shows probably one of our biggest issues with the nature restoration law, which is the gap within the knowledge and within the information relating to, for example, the hedgerows. We may be able, through LiDAR, to measure areas of them but we do not know the quality of them. We have a lot of data at national level but we do not know it at local level and there are significant gaps within that. Within a nature restoration law, how do you define that when you do not have the baseline information? This lack of information and lack of a baseline is very difficult because different science and reports are countering this.