Mr. Mick Williams:

Ms McGillivary has said it all. The working projects are very creative with what they do with their money. They are extremely creative. We in Sankalpa have to be very creative when we are delivering mental health-specific modules. We do this to the best of our ability. As Deputy Ward knows, the staff in our projects invest in their careers. They are constantly paying for courses. They are constantly trying to upskill themselves. All of this needs to be supported by the organisations but they can only do this if they have the resources to do so. The trauma-informed-care models that DCU has led on are very specific but they are easy to deliver with the proper manpower resources. We only get manpower resources through extra funding. We want to continue the work that we do but we want to be equal to any other service, such as psychiatry. Their models are producing results and people are recovering. This is the crux of it.