Dr. Kelly de Bruin:

I would just reinforce what Professor FitzGerald said. We are talking about the call in China, and that call is being used to make products for us. This idea of a carbon border mechanism is exactly that; it actually equalises carbon emissions per person across the world. In that way, we are at the moment using other people's carbon budgets in our own consumption. Having a carbon-border adjustment mechanism equalises the carbon cost across different countries. In that way, it is in my view more equitable.