Mr. Philip Jones:

In fact, I think there is research in the Department from a number of years back saying we can get higher density to reach compact growth at six storeys, rather than going for what I would describe as the egotistical intention of 100 storeys, or 50 or 15. Let us say the national policy set out that there should be a density of X in town centres of particular cities.

If the relevant development plans do not cover it, that can be changed, but the form of reaching that density should be left to the local authority. There can be guidance but it does not need to be mandatory guidance. That is the difference.